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		<title>By: Daniel M. Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. One can hope that the authorities will eventually realize that it is less safe not having the bike lane than how it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. One can hope that the authorities will eventually realize that it is less safe not having the bike lane than how it is now.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, thank you for a great insight into this whole argument, which has registered quite large on the blogosphere this side of the pond as well.  I think you are absolutely on the nail with the emphasis on the &#039;I&#039;, as in it is my responsibility not to look at scantily clad people, not the the responsibility of the scantily clad people to cover up for my benefit.  The idea that people should change their behaviour to appease a majority is awful.  Live and let live should be the ethos of all Americans.

And of course, saddest of all, for hipsters, Jews or any one else who might like to bike is that a cycling facility has been lost.

Great article!
.-= MarkA´s last blog... &lt;a href=&quot;http://ibikelondon.blogspot.com/2010/01/y-o-u-b-i-k-e-l-o-n-d-o-n-simon-from.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;y o u b i k e l o n d o n; Simon from Reading&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, thank you for a great insight into this whole argument, which has registered quite large on the blogosphere this side of the pond as well.  I think you are absolutely on the nail with the emphasis on the &#8216;I&#8217;, as in it is my responsibility not to look at scantily clad people, not the the responsibility of the scantily clad people to cover up for my benefit.  The idea that people should change their behaviour to appease a majority is awful.  Live and let live should be the ethos of all Americans.</p>
<p>And of course, saddest of all, for hipsters, Jews or any one else who might like to bike is that a cycling facility has been lost.</p>
<p>Great article!<br />
.-= MarkA´s last blog&#8230; <a href="http://ibikelondon.blogspot.com/2010/01/y-o-u-b-i-k-e-l-o-n-d-o-n-simon-from.html" rel="nofollow">y o u b i k e l o n d o n; Simon from Reading</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel M. Perez</title>
		<link>http://www.slowbikemiami.com/hipsters-vs-hasids-a-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, it devolved into a mockery (though thankfully, the scheduled naked bike ride through the area didn&#039;t happen). The thing about this story is that it illustrates how far we still have to go. I mean, when people think that removing a bike lane increases security, there&#039;s a big problem with education right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it devolved into a mockery (though thankfully, the scheduled naked bike ride through the area didn&#8217;t happen). The thing about this story is that it illustrates how far we still have to go. I mean, when people think that removing a bike lane increases security, there&#8217;s a big problem with education right there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dottie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting analysis.  I&#039;d read something about the conflict several month ago, but had not heard of the latest development about stripping the bike lanes.  More often than not lately, a blog is the best place for me to find thoughtful insights into stories, rather than the mainstream media.
.-= Dottie´s last blog... &lt;a href=&quot;http://letsgorideabike.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/ice-on-the-lakefront-trail-prada-on-rush-street/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ice on the Lakefront Trail, Prada on Rush Street&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting analysis.  I&#8217;d read something about the conflict several month ago, but had not heard of the latest development about stripping the bike lanes.  More often than not lately, a blog is the best place for me to find thoughtful insights into stories, rather than the mainstream media.<br />
.-= Dottie´s last blog&#8230; <a href="http://letsgorideabike.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/ice-on-the-lakefront-trail-prada-on-rush-street/" rel="nofollow">Ice on the Lakefront Trail, Prada on Rush Street</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel M. Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for dropping by, Kharl.
Yes, the bigger issue is one of accepting we live in mixed communities and not in the shtetl back in Russia or wherever. If that were the case, then sure, they can call all the shots. But it isn&#039;t. We all need to be more respectful of our fellow&#039;s ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by, Kharl.<br />
Yes, the bigger issue is one of accepting we live in mixed communities and not in the shtetl back in Russia or wherever. If that were the case, then sure, they can call all the shots. But it isn&#8217;t. We all need to be more respectful of our fellow&#8217;s ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great and thoughtful analysis, Mr. Perez. 

I&#039;m pretty secular, but can certainly understand why a religiously conservative enclave of NYC would want to be left culturally alone. I would respect their values to the extent possible in the same way I do the Amish in parts of Upstate N.Y. where I often go to visit. 

However, having it all one&#039;s own way is not entirely possible in a multicultural nation like ours. We all have to give a little, especially to live in a teeming metropolis and as you say, the onus for obeying our religious principles is on us alone, on fair days and foul. 

We all have to remember that if we start imposing our narrow values on others, the shoe will some day be on the other foot. That&#039;s what the First Amendment is all about.

Meanwhile, those cyclists need to ride properly and stay out of those door zones.

Shalom,

Khal Spencer
.-= Khal Spencer´s last blog... &lt;a href=&quot;http://labikes.blogspot.com/2009/12/if-you-cant-ride-ski.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If you can&#039;t ride, ski&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great and thoughtful analysis, Mr. Perez. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty secular, but can certainly understand why a religiously conservative enclave of NYC would want to be left culturally alone. I would respect their values to the extent possible in the same way I do the Amish in parts of Upstate N.Y. where I often go to visit. </p>
<p>However, having it all one&#8217;s own way is not entirely possible in a multicultural nation like ours. We all have to give a little, especially to live in a teeming metropolis and as you say, the onus for obeying our religious principles is on us alone, on fair days and foul. </p>
<p>We all have to remember that if we start imposing our narrow values on others, the shoe will some day be on the other foot. That&#8217;s what the First Amendment is all about.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, those cyclists need to ride properly and stay out of those door zones.</p>
<p>Shalom,</p>
<p>Khal Spencer<br />
.-= Khal Spencer´s last blog&#8230; <a href="http://labikes.blogspot.com/2009/12/if-you-cant-ride-ski.html" rel="nofollow">If you can&#8217;t ride, ski</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel M. Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-)</description>
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		<title>By: DavidCEisen</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidCEisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new picture is much better on all counts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new picture is much better on all counts!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel M. Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NY Post is reporting today (12/10/09) that the Hipsters vs Hasid bikelane brouhaha has gone global:

&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a href=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/biker_brawl_goes_global_nhyHe5xds9YB170sTwblLJ target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYPost.com: Biker brawl goes global&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;When Mayor Bloomberg arrives at the climate-change meetings in Copenhagen Monday he&#039;ll be confronted by a group of activists from the borough, demanding to know how an environmentalist can take an anti-cycling stance.

&quot;How can he fly all the way there to talk about being a green mayor when at home he is yanking bike lanes off the streets?&quot; said Baruch Herzfeld, an unofficial spokesman for the groups of riders who repainted sections of Bedford Avenue bike lanes in protest at the removal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NY Post is reporting today (12/10/09) that the Hipsters vs Hasid bikelane brouhaha has gone global:</p>
<h3><a href=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/biker_brawl_goes_global_nhyHe5xds9YB170sTwblLJ target=_blank rel="nofollow">NYPost.com: Biker brawl goes global</a></h3>
<blockquote><p>When Mayor Bloomberg arrives at the climate-change meetings in Copenhagen Monday he&#8217;ll be confronted by a group of activists from the borough, demanding to know how an environmentalist can take an anti-cycling stance.</p>
<p>&#8220;How can he fly all the way there to talk about being a green mayor when at home he is yanking bike lanes off the streets?&#8221; said Baruch Herzfeld, an unofficial spokesman for the groups of riders who repainted sections of Bedford Avenue bike lanes in protest at the removal.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Daniel M. Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slowbikemiami.com/wp-content/uploads/hasid_pic.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;same pic they used on the NY Post article&lt;/a&gt;, but you are correct. I have changed it above.
As for bicyclists who don&#039;t obey the law, good to know it isn&#039;t solely a Miami problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used the <a href="http://www.slowbikemiami.com/wp-content/uploads/hasid_pic.jpg" rel="nofollow">same pic they used on the NY Post article</a>, but you are correct. I have changed it above.<br />
As for bicyclists who don&#8217;t obey the law, good to know it isn&#8217;t solely a Miami problem.</p>
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